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..... Jim Stone  jan 5th 2016 ......  ......     Here is real word from the Oregon standoff - This is the real deal, so I figured I'd post it in full, especially since it says exactly what I said - that this was all set up by the government, and false truthers. From Christian Yingling:
Ok ...Everybody... please gather around, and listen to what I am about to say..Then either shut your mouth, or share this far and wide. If you have ANY faith in me as a leader, you will heed what I am about to say. If not..I want nothing to do with you, simple as that.
The key to victory in any battle, is the ability to remain calm, in any given situation. What we are seeing right now, is a whole bunch of people acting based solely on raw emotion. This is very bad, and I'm about to explain exactly why. I am not letting my emotions make my decisions for me, but instead, looking at this, from a calm, level headed, common sense approach. What you are all witnessing right now right now in Oregon, has the makings, of a full on false flag event. And I will prove that to you, to the absolute best of my ability. Should you choose to look at this, from a logical perspective, you will see I am 100% correct.          Some of what I will tell you, is speculation, based on my own experience and experiences of others I have talked to, throughout this ordeal, but most of what I am going to tell you, is documented verifiable fact. Back during the Bundy situation, Ryan Payne declared himself, the unofficial "leader" of the militias present at the Bundy ranch. Nothing could have been further from the truth. In fact, none of the militias listened to him at all. The ONLY ones who listened to him, were the Bundy's, Blaine Cooper, who Payne claimed was a "professional security consultant', who turned out to be nothing more than an ex con, and buddah bear (nice name) who he also claimed was a "professional security consultant", but was later discovered to be nothing more than a tattoo artist thug. The militias ignoring these three, is precisely why that situation didnt turn into a blood bath. (strangely enough, all three are present at the refuge) -
                  I and Scott Woods, were asked on one occasion, by Payne, to go and destroy BLM equipment, in the middle of the night. We refused, stating that that's not why, we were there. We were there solely to defend the family. That very same night, he rushed off in a car with a loaded AR, to START a violent altercation with LEOs, who supposedly had pulled over members of the Armenian Militia off exit 10, near the ranch. This report was never vetted, nor was it looked into, before he rushed off. It is also well documented that Payne had tried to incite other militia members, to start violent altercations with the authorities who were present there. All of which were refused by militia members..all for the same reason...we were NOT there to start a fight...but to DEFEND the family. When people refused, Payne, Cooper, and Buddah ostracized them, and ran them off the ranch. This is why most militias left the ranch, when they did.         One other point worth mentioning, was there were militia members present with long range 50 cal sniper rifles... but instead of positioning them on the hilltops surrounding the ranch, Payne had them stationed down in a valley, where they were effectively useless... does that sound like the makings of a solid leader, to you? And also Payne was always sure to make certain, that there was ONE completely UNDEFENDED access point to the ranch.. I brought this up, to him asking why he would leave our back door, completely open and undefended... and he completely blew me off... What he was doing in fact, was leaving an access point, open for authorities to bum rush the ranch, if that's what they felt needed to be done. And I have the witnesses to prove it.         Now throughout the situation, Payne made repeated threats to law enforcement, on NATIONAL media. There's VIDEO of him doing this..its not hard to find. Yet oddly enough with all that evidence, he was never charged with anything, during or after the standoff. Does that seem ODD to anyone, but me? (not, if you're a paid provocateur) Now in this situation at the refuge, he has publicly stated to a reporter, that he has snipers, set up to kill any federal official who approaches the refuge. Yet still.. no charges are being filed against him,making threats like that, you'd think they'd swoop in, and scoop him up... but noooo.. because they're giving patriots, time to get there... Don't think for one second, that with a couple of phone calls to the proper alphabet agencies, those shmucks wont be SORELY outnumbered. Tell you what... if you think LEO's don't take threats against them, seriously... go find the nearest cop and walk up to him, and tell him you plan to kill police officers, and see what happens to you.. See how long it takes for you to end up in prison.. yet Payne roams does Cooper. Better yet go ask Schuyler Barbeau, what happens when you threaten a public official... oh can't... hes in prison... because of a facebook post. Funny how that works huh? Also... has anyone else noticed that until this situation popped up, Payne was damned near SILENT on social media? Wonder why that is...         Hell, Most of you don't even know who he is... He also claimed to be an Army Ranger, But when we had someone at the Ranger School, check their records... they said NO Ryan Payne had EVER attended that school... whoda thunk it?               Myself and Scott begged the Bundys, after we left (via phone), to stop listening to Payne..that he was a plant. But they refused to listen. Payne wouldn't let ANYONE talk to the Bundy's, with out him being present..or close by. The Bundy's are good God fearing  Christians, but they are TERRIBLY naive. They truly believe..... Payne is one of the good guys. Which is why they are at the refuge now.                 Do you honestly think for one second, it was AMMON's idea, to take that building? If you do... you're a fool. They're not that type of people. Ammon has been suckered into this standoff, by Payne and Cooper. He truly went up there, with the intention of helping the Hammonds, and when they were refused, The Bundy's were made to believe that taking a stand against the BLM, was the answer.       Nothing could be further from the truth. Now Cliven is on his way there.. and the govt is finally going to get their revenge on the Bundy's, and in doing so, gain the access they need to their land. All the major players in the operation of that Ranch, will soon be together at the wildlife refuge... thats no coincidence. I assure you.  Payne, Cooper, Pete Santili... All well trained provocateurs, who are doing everything in their power, to lure patriots to the ranch.. Case in point...      Santili just released a video try, to say that the FBI was TRYING to shut him down.. Dont you think if that were the case...with ALL of the resources the FBI has, they would just go ahead, and do it... do you really think this shmuck is smart enough, to outsmart the ENTIRE FBI? Think about it...        Let us continue on.. why the wild life refuge? how in the blue hell, did they even know it existed, if this wasn't PRE-PLANNED? And why were their trailers staged up there THURSDAY night, if this was all "unplanned"? And if they wanted support, so bad...why not let the Oregon 3%ers and militia, in on this? I'll tell you why.. because they would have had no part in it, and vehemently refused, if they had known.... as was demonstrated by their response, once they found out. SO..that being said.. why pick a place so remote.. I'll tell you why.. the same reason the Bundy ranch was picked.. it's remote... no civilian casualties. And if everyone out there is killed, there's no witnesses allowing the govt to write the narrative of what happened afterwards..You can bet any reporters out there, will be silenced, should they actually get close enough to catch anything worth documenting, unless of course they're willing to report what they're told to... the reason it failed at the Bundy ranch, was because the community got so involved... NOT the case at the refuge.               Next.. why has a detachment of Delta Force been deployed to the area? (does anyone remember that Delta was ALSO at WACO?) 19 sets of orders were cut, for operators to be at waco. Why in the Blue hell, would they send Delta, to squash a bunch of unorganized mostly unarmed protesters? I'll tell you why.. one of the things Delta specializes in, is hostage rescue.. I.E. blow open a door rush in, and shoot the bad guys, but save the good guys.. I.E. embedded reporters from the national media, who can later report, the protesters fired first.                 This is happening EXACTLY the same way WACO did... you know who else claimed, "We won't fire first, but if attacked, we'll fire back.."? David Koresh. Again well documented fact. This situation is going to turn out the exact same way.              If these guys don't stand down now, while the sheriff is giving them an opportunity to, I promise you.. its going to turn out the exact same way. I'll bet my life on it.     Now lets look at poor John Ritzheimer. This guy is exhibiting all the classic signs of PTSD. It is my belief that he is not in on this plan, but like the Bundy's... has been suckered into believing what he is doing is right. This poor bastard is still fighting the war in his head, and Assholes like Payne and Cooper are feeding into his delusions, that dying for this cause, is what he needs to do. They are taking advantage of his big heart and his undying love for the country he fought for, and twisting him into a suicidal maniac. Im sorry if that stings.. but I assure you its the cold hard truth.                How could ANYONE in their right mind, think that dying, trying to fight the BLM of all things, is going to "change the govt"? How ignorant do you have to be, to think that fighting and dying out there, is going to somehow make the BLM fold up shop, and stop what they are doing. Sorry kids... the ONLY people who can stop the BLM are in DC.. and I assure you, as long as People like Harry Reid and the like, are around... the BLM is not going anywhere.. no matter how much we fight them and run them off. We ran them off at the Bundy ranch... and how much did that slow them down..? we ran them off, at the sugar pine mine... how much did that slow them down...? What makes anyone think, this will be any different? Mind boggling, I tell you.               Now to those of you who are buying into this whole "this will galvanize the movement, line of crap".. What this is REALLY going to do, is crush the patriot movement. They are going to hit these people with such force with such blinding speed, and a level of violence of action, that most patriots are going to turn and look at their own children, and go there's no way in HELL I want that to happen to MY family... thus the reason there are women and Children, being taken to the refuge. The govt has already shown at WACO and Ruby Ridge, just how willing they are to kill American Children. Don't think for a second, they wont do it here, as well.              All the classic signs of a psyop. They plan to frighten the people, into not even daring to ever take a stand against them, again. So what then of the militias? We'll still be here, but will be forced into hiding.. those who aren't, will be scooped up and charged as Domestic Terrorists. -      Do you for even ONE second, really believe that this happening, at the same time as Obama prepares to announce a whole new slew of gun restrictions, is really a coincidence? Its not.. Not at all. What this is going to be used for, is an EXCUSE to show why we need to disarm the American people, for their own safety.. or put into place, such SEVERE restrictions on owning firearms, that we will NEVER be able to properly defend ourselves, against a tyrannical govt. Hitler did it... Stalin did it... Mao did it... now Obama's doing it. History is repeating itself in front of our own eyes, and we're too blinded by raw emotion, to recognize it.         If everyone picked up, and left that refuge, tomorrow, what do you think Payne and Cooper would do? They're so die hard...think they'd stay and fight? I mean that's what they're saying... they're not leaving, right? Prepared to die for the cause....right?.... My ASS ! Nope... they'll slink back into the shadows, and wait for the next opportunity to bamboozle good patriots, into signing their own death warrants. And of course... once again.. neither will be charged with anything. And good peoples lives will be risked, for nothing.
           We're being goaded into a fight here, NEED to see that. And every ONE of you, who is advocating for this...Know this... if these people die... it will be YOUR fault. Not mine, nor will it be the fault of ANYONE, in ANY unit I command. I simply wont allow it. THIS is the reason my troops follow me.. because I take the time to think these things look at them, from ALL directions... not based on sheer emotion, as so many of you are doing now.                         It was stated, dare I say, TAUGHT to me today, by a close friend, who is an ex special forces operator, that wars are not won by people taking rash actions, such as the ones that have been taken here. Wars are won with proper planning. That shit hit me like a brick.. And I Will NEVER forget those words, as that is the smartest thing I have heard throughout this entire ordeal. 1. Plan  2. Equip  3. Rehearse  4. Execute                      THAT'S how you win a battle. THAT'S how you minimize casualties.. THAT'S how you win a war. None of that was done here. Therefore, these guys are all as good as dead.. Why do you think the local sheriff there, just said these guys need to leave, WHILE THEY STILL CAN... Because he KNOWS whats going to happen to them! He's OFFERING them a way out, and DAMNIT THEY NEED TO TAKE IT!
The first thing I teach my guys, is when they make unexpected contact with the enemy is, the proper response is to fall back, reset and take back the initiative. That's what we need to do here. Will it look like a loss, in the eyes of the people? Absolutely. But hey, you all had better get used to the fact, that we are not going to win every battle.. BUT... in the eyes of those who put this whole bullshit plan together... this will be a CRUSHING defeat... Even though it will never be made public knowledge. We have let the enemy, pick the time and place of our fight...and that is about to prove to be a fatal mistake. Mark my words.. But we can still snatch victory, out of this whole screwed up mess...if ONLY you will listen to me. How do we win then? Well I'll tell you...                                 We get those people out of there!!!!! Anyone and everyone who has contact with the people there, needs to PLEAD with them, to get the hell out of there... Then, we regroup, and WE pick the time and place of our fight...not the enemy. WE make THEM react.. WE pick ground that is most sensible for a proper defense, not a building in the middle of a field, that has absolutely NO defensible positions, as in the case of the refuge. Then we properly equip, plan, rehearse, and execute. If you want to win a war...that's how you have to do it.
Most importantly.. we expose frauds like Cooper and Payne, for who they truly are, and drum them out of the movement, before they really get someone killed. So that my take on this mess... listen to me if you want, ignore me, at your own peril... either wa,y it is of no consequence to me. I will not debate this issue, and NO ONE will change my mind about this... I have done too much research into this situation, to allow ANY armchair commando, to dictate my actions for me. This is the war you all wanted so badly... now either lead follow, or get the fuck out of the way. End of story.                                   (please note this post has been edited, to provide more factual evidence, to include mention of Delta at Waco.) *************************  from: - World Class Investigative  and ... from: .......... ................ ......

A woman who is currently pregnant, showed me her medical schedule. The vaccine is not MMR. It is Diptheria, Tetanus and Influenza in Mexico ,/// and in Brazil it is Tetanus, Diptheria and Pertussis (Tdap). It will be VERY important for people who have posted MMR (this got reposted a lot) to change this, to Tdap. I have confirmed that Brazil just got a new Tdap shot, which is the likely culprit. This report will remain unchanged, except for MMR to be replaced with TDAP. I knew, it was a three way vaccine, and errored with MMR, that is not what it is. THIS REPORT WILL NOW BE CORRECTED, TO REFLECT THIS.     UPDATE: THIS SHRUNKEN BRAIN PROBLEM, DIRECTLY COINCIDES WITH THE INTRODUCTION OF A NEW TDAP VACCINE IN BRAZIL, WHICH WAS ANNOUNCED IN DEC 2014, AND WENT INTO USE IN 2015. IRREVOCABLY BUSTED, From the National Institute of Health: (( ))
in Brazil it destroyed more than 2,400 Brazilian newborn babies, en utero,/before birth / .... and other countries also.  ......or same page  i3 or i6 ....